Subject	I dont like them.
Posted by	Chris(NJ) on September 19, 2004 at 3:58 PM
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In Reply To	what is your problem with Z1? posted by joel(PA) on September 19, 2004 at 03:35 PM
Message	I dont like they way they carry themselves on the forums, how they claim inventing products that have already been developed by other members, how they're very shady about certain things, the absolute hack job they did on wagz's car originally, poor items/lack of quality control, just the image they portray...i dunno, there are a lot of reasons, a lot of which i see all the time but dont take note of in order to satisfy someone who asks why i dont like them. If people dont see what is wrong w/ z1 then so be it, but a LOT of us do, and we've been around the scene for a long time to know why people do certain things and know who is respectable and who isnt through their actions. Chris 1990 custom yellow stage X TT 1990 2+2 stage 4+ (sold) *take only pictures - Leave only footprints* It is ridiculous claiming that video games influence children. For instance, if Pac-man affected kids born in the eighties, we should by now have a bunch of teenagers who run around in darkened rooms and eat pills while listening to monotonous electronic music.
Follow Ups	This info true? More info? - mds2004 00:23:06 09/19/04 His car is amazing! 1000hp is no joke! Congrats russel. (n/m) - larryb 00:35:16 09/19/04 Repost (n/m) - Snoguitar 00:59:24 09/19/04 Re: This info true? More info? - los 01:00:28 09/19/04 30 miles on the motor huh. lol, thats some break-in period (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 04:44:48 09/19/04 some of us are wondering how many they have blown or - Halo Z 10:07:46 09/19/04 some reputable tuners break in motors on dynos or - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 13:28:32 09/19/04 so how does z1 fall in that. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 13:31:56 09/19/04 nice chris --or I'll take your tranny :) (n/m) - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 13:40:55 09/19/04 lol,...ok ok. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 14:04:35 09/19/04 that does not include peak power runs on the juice. (n/m) - Spee 14:15:50 09/19/04 I call BS - sfpearl300z (South Florida) 01:13:07 09/19/04 pretty sure its tru - Wagz(streetneeds.com) 01:52:21 09/19/04 J/K there, thought that was implied :-) - sfpearl300z (South Florida) 02:09:56 09/19/04 That was some flip-flop - SeedyROM 02:28:17 09/19/04 I was once told by someone who should know that - robo (sebring1970) 01:26:36 09/19/04 Your friend exaggerates - SeedyROM 02:23:47 09/19/04 *sickly tuned for response* lol, I like it. (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 03:30:15 09/19/04 What, you don't script it? ;) (n/m) - SeedyROM 04:53:05 09/19/04 *sigh* (n/m) - Spee 11:50:54 09/19/04 I bet that dyno did see 1000RWHP - SeedyROM 02:32:48 09/19/04 Its just a #. Let them back it up on the track or street - TwinTurboPete 11:54:37 09/19/04 email russell, he'll know if its true and have more info. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 04:45:28 09/19/04 i wonder how the "peace/pace maker" is doing. (n/m) - Halo Z 09:38:17 09/19/04 Congratulations Russell and Z-1 - Riddick 13:02:56 09/19/04 Richard B joined the forum March 04, 2004 03:37 AM - Halo Z 13:17:47 09/19/04 Your point being? - Riddick 14:24:38 09/19/04 Not to discredit anything you've done with your car. - Guapo 14:32:43 09/19/04 yeah and am i suppose to be impressed? - Halo Z 16:48:30 09/19/04 You should be. - Riddick 17:37:08 09/19/04 yeah.. sure... - Halo Z 20:27:40 09/19/04 whats your point (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 13:30:57 09/19/04 what is your problem with Z1? - joel(PA) 15:35:20 09/19/04 I dont like them. - Chris(NJ) 15:58:21 09/19/04 2nd (n/m) - Halo Z 16:22:46 09/19/04 funny - if seb got 1000rwhp ( and he still just might )-most - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 13:36:53 09/19/04 Reputation goes a long way when it comes to credibility. (n/m) - Guapo 13:43:37 09/19/04 the "four degrees of stupidity" - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 13:56:22 09/19/04 Re: the "four degrees of stupidity" - Guapo 14:03:24 09/19/04 bling2 - joel(PA) 15:23:03 09/19/04 bling3 - Guapo 19:05:33 09/19/04 lmao @ "contact solidpantz about copyrighting that term" (n/m) - aliaZ (broken in) 23:17:16 09/19/04 funny - the only guys sticking up for Russel are customers - Spee 14:20:08 09/19/04 nice spee -u'r not that far from me - I'll take u'r tranny 2 - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 14:28:25 09/19/04 wow, june... i was going up there when it was ZX connection. - Halo Z 16:18:02 09/19/04 All old news in the past.. (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 18:03:35 09/19/04 what are you guys a born again z shop now or something? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 18:06:44 09/19/04 Kinda feels like it now that some people have left.. - speedr300z (ATL) 18:20:46 09/19/04 It takes a LOT of time to re-earn respect after all of that - SeedyROM 18:59:10 09/19/04 yeah, and not all that have left, has mistreated my friends - Halo Z 20:13:29 09/19/04 sorry to hear that.. (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 22:24:28 09/19/04 correction. - T0M 14:29:41 09/19/04 Funny thing Spee....... - Riddick 14:33:55 09/19/04 WTF are you talking about? (n/m) - Spee 14:59:09 09/19/04 lmao @ - Chris(NJ) 16:01:50 09/19/04 the only people that are sticking up for them - joel(PA) 15:24:19 09/19/04 lie also. (n/m) - Halo Z 16:18:40 09/19/04 I stick up for Z1 (and Ash) Never bought a thing from them. (n/m) - Technomancer 10:40:18 09/20/04 It was NOT dyno'd on the Z1 dyno, Z1's dyno is currently - speedr300z (ATL) 17:33:50 09/19/04 Excellent - SeedyROM 18:55:58 09/19/04 Yet another record for Z1. - ZBlacktt 19:24:20 09/19/04 lol (n/m) - Spee 19:28:35 09/19/04 yeah, well we both know you don't need 1000 hp to - Halo Z 20:26:30 09/19/04 well, he was having fun at Deal's Gap back in May. - SuparexTT 20:53:35 09/19/04 jim? - Halo Z 20:57:56 09/19/04 no, russell in the vert (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 22:27:38 09/19/04 weird, no where im my post did i say russ, just "it" for - Halo Z 06:34:55 09/20/04 actually you didn't even say "it", you said "the car" - speedr300z (ATL) 07:24:30 09/20/04 hmmmmm - Halo Z 08:23:35 09/20/04 lol, it wasn't hard to understand.. - speedr300z (ATL) 08:47:04 09/20/04 There Supra seems to be even better - ZBlacktt 21:54:40 09/19/04 talked to him sat at nopi, - Halo Z 21:58:12 09/19/04 huh? - Spee 22:49:14 09/19/04 Re: huh? - RobWR14 06:19:48 09/20/04 My God, there are people on here with logic, lol. :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 11:54:29 09/20/04 you so missed my point. - Spee 13:25:55 09/20/04 See, that's just it - ZBlacktt 02:49:54 09/21/04 They hold the power records yet can't show a 1/4 mile slip - Magnum 20:52:12 09/19/04 Oh yea, cause we all need to go race, right? - ZBlacktt 21:57:48 09/19/04 LMAO, WTF is the point of a 1000hp car that all you do - Magnum 22:03:20 09/19/04 Well, I'm not going to be the one to explain, thanks :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 00:28:18 09/20/04 What's the point of having a 500HP car if at the track - PiotrC70 12:08:15 09/20/04 Don't, please, stop. No more logic here, lol. Please stop ;) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 17:30:48 09/20/04 SGP has built the fastest pratical stuff, not dynoqueens - kryptonite729 20:52:51 09/19/04 Thanks Kyle :) - ZBlacktt 21:46:06 09/19/04 OMFG, Comedy club in this joint! - kryptonite729 22:39:37 09/19/04 Thanks again Kyle. Good luck :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 00:25:43 09/20/04 2f2f (n/m) - dpjax 13:37:56 09/21/04
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